{"id":7162,"date":"2023-07-01T14:00:45","date_gmt":"2023-07-01T19:00:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/blog\/?p=7162"},"modified":"2023-07-30T18:17:55","modified_gmt":"2023-07-30T23:17:55","slug":"should-students-teach-other-students","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/should-students-teach-other-students\/","title":{"rendered":"Should students &#8220;teach&#8221; other students?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>You will often hear\u00a0about an exciting strategy to help students learn: they should\u00a0<em>teach one another<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Imagine a unit on\u00a0&#8212; say &#8212; &#8220;siege warfare.&#8221; And, imagine that my student (let&#8217;s call him Lancelot) learns enough about siege warfare to teach his classmates about &#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8230;\u00a0its\u00a0strategic and tactical requirements,<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8230; the benefits and detriments of siege warfare,<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8230; the changes in siege warfare over time,<\/p>\n<p>Well, Lancelot has LEARNED A LOT about the topic.<\/p>\n<p>Even better, if Lance learns enough to <i>teach\u00a0this material effectively,<\/i> that extra level of\u00a0mental lift will no doubt benefit his understanding.<\/p>\n<p>It seems that &#8220;students teaching students&#8221; could result in deeper learning. What&#8217;s not to love?<\/p>\n<h2>What&#8217;s Not To Love<\/h2>\n<p>Long-time readers know that I struggle to accept uplifting advice. If a teaching suggestion <strong>sounds really heartwarming\u00a0<\/strong>and <strong>feels really good<\/strong>, I worry that all that feel-good warmth has distracted me from the skepticism that is my job.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/AdobeStock_336473590.jpeg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-7166\" src=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/AdobeStock_336473590-300x200.jpeg\" alt=\"Students talking with each other around a table\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/AdobeStock_336473590-300x200.jpeg 300w, https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/AdobeStock_336473590-1024x683.jpeg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>In this case, &#8220;students teaching students&#8221; SOUNDS so wonderful. For that reason, I\u00a0feel compelled to ask some tough questions and offer some downbeat assertions.<\/p>\n<p><strong>First Concern<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>We know that humans have limited cognitive resources. For instance, adults have alarmingly small working memory capacities &#8212; and most of our students have less than we do.<\/p>\n<p>How should Lancelot use those limited resources of his?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I\u00a0&#8212; as the teacher Merlin &#8212; could ask him to focus on <em>learning the topic<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Or, I could ask him to\u00a0<em>divide<\/em> those resources: use\u00a0<em>some<\/em> working memory to understand the core ideas, and <em>some<\/em> working memory to think about effective explanations and exercises that will help his classmates learn.<\/p>\n<p>Sadly, the more WM that goes to teaching others, the less that Lance has to understand the topic.<\/p>\n<p>Or,\u00a0 if Lance uses all his WM for understanding sieges and none for teaching, then\u00a0<em>his teaching will be really ineffective<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>After all: who knows better than teachers that\u00a0<em>good teaching requires LOTS of cognitive resources.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>In other words: I worry that asking Lance to teach his peers will have several bad outcomes:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Either: Lance won&#8217;t understand the topic well;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Or: his classmates won&#8217;t learn very much;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Or: both.<\/p>\n<p>I might not like that conclusion; it certainly isn&#8217;t heartwarming.\u00a0But a basic understanding of working memory&#8217;s limitations makes it hard for me to reject this perspective.<\/p>\n<h2>Second Concern<\/h2>\n<p>When I ask Lance to teach the other knights at the round table, I&#8217;m asking him to do two distinct mental tasks:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">First: he has to <strong>understand<\/strong> siege warfare (or covalent bonds, or exponent rules, or&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Second: he has to repackage that understanding into specific explanations and tasks that <em>help others understand<\/em>. (After all, that&#8217;s what teaching is.)<\/p>\n<p>Note, however, that if Lance doesn&#8217;t understand covalent bonds, he can&#8217;t possibly teach that concept to others effectively.<\/p>\n<p>For that reason, I (teacher Merlin) need at least one additional step:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I need to ensure that Lance understands the chemistry\u00a0REALLY WELL before I set him off on his teaching question.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the kicker: our students typically are novices in the topics we want them to learn. Because Lance is a novice on the topic of covalent bonds, he simply CAN&#8217;T KNOW whether or not he understands them well.<\/p>\n<p>As a beginner, he <a href=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/unbearable-irony-when-dunning-kruger-bites-back\/\" target=\"_blank\">doesn&#8217;t understand enough to know if he understands<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Unless I structure my unit plan with great foresight and lots of double-checking, it&#8217;s likely that I&#8217;ll ask someone who\u00a0<em>simply cannot know if he knows<\/em> to teach his classmates.<\/p>\n<p>Whether or not I have helped Lance learn, I almost certainly have fallen short on my responsibility to ensure that Lance&#8217;s classmates learn.<\/p>\n<h2>Thoughtful Pushback<\/h2>\n<p>Because I&#8217;m the luckiest guy on the MBE planet, I spent this last week working with 50 teachers in an online workshop. We discussed <strong>working memory<\/strong> and <strong>long-term memory<\/strong> and <strong>attention<\/strong> and <strong>schema theory<\/strong> &#8212; and all their myriad classroom applications.<\/p>\n<p>Honestly, they were one of the most thoughtful and engaging groups I&#8217;ve ever worked with.<\/p>\n<p>When I explained my skepticism about &#8220;students teaching students,&#8221; two participants pushed back with thoughtful rejoinders.<\/p>\n<p>One said (I&#8217;m summarizing, not quoting):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When parents ask me how they can help their children study, I say:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;have them <strong>teach you<\/strong> the topic we worked on in class. Even if you don&#8217;t know a lot about it, you&#8217;ll know enough to be able to spot the weaknesses in their explanations, and to ask follow up questions.<\/p>\n<p>And, you&#8217;ll get to know more about their school lives!&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Another said (more summarizing):<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>I have my students <strong>teach each other<\/strong> as a kind of review.<\/p>\n<p>That is: each of them uses marker to draw a particular diagram (say: the digestive system) on their desks.<\/p>\n<p>Then, they rotate to the next desk, and annotate in a different color: they add, they ask questions, they suggest updates.<\/p>\n<p>Then, they rotate again, and add in yet a different color.<\/p>\n<p>So, when a student gets back to her original desk, she has learned SO MUCH from her peers. And, she has helped her peers by making her own annotations.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In other words: we have LOTS of reasons to ask students to teach others.<\/p>\n<h2>\u00a0&#8220;Teaching&#8221; vs. teaching<\/h2>\n<p>These comments helped my clarify my thinking, because they force me to define &#8220;teaching&#8221; more precisely.<\/p>\n<p>In the first place, I should say that I think both of these teachers&#8217; strategies are EXCELLENT. In both cases, students are &#8212; basically &#8212; using <strong>retrieval practice<\/strong> to review material.<\/p>\n<p>That is: both teachers have already taught the concepts to their students. When students explain ideas to their parents, or recreate and annotate diagrams on desks, they must re-activate their prior knowledge.<\/p>\n<p>In this case, students don&#8217;t simply <em>review\u00a0<\/em>concepts (&#8220;review&#8221; = less effective). They\u00a0<em>retrieve<\/em> concepts (&#8220;retrieve&#8221; = <a href=\"http:\/\/www.retrievalpractice.org\" target=\"_blank\">more effective<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>However, neither of these excellent strategies precisely fits my definition of teaching. When I think of teaching, I think of&#8230;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8230; explaining a concept or procedure to someone who\u00a0<em>doesn&#8217;t yet know or understand it,<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8230; with the result that this person\u00a0<em>does know or understand it<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>So, for instance, the strategy of &#8220;teaching parents&#8221;\u00a0succeeds <em>whether or not the parents understand<\/em>. The goal isn&#8217;t to benefit the person being &#8220;taught&#8221; (the parent), but to benefit the person &#8220;teaching&#8221; (the student who&#8217;s doing the explaining).<\/p>\n<p>Or, the strategy of &#8220;teaching the digestive system&#8221; probably succeeds because the teacher ALREADY taught the material. The students aren&#8217;t providing original instruction; they&#8217;re reviewing (and perhaps adding to) knowledge they got from the teacher.<\/p>\n<p>In other words: I worry about &#8220;students teaching students&#8221; <em>depending on the definition of &#8220;teach<\/em>.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Having students explain ideas to someone else sounds like a great idea &#8212; as long as I don&#8217;t need &#8220;someone else&#8221; to understand.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Having student review ideas with each other sounds like a great idea &#8212; especially if Merlin already explained those ideas in detail.<\/p>\n<h2>TL;DR<\/h2>\n<p>Teachers should certainly invite students to explain their thinking to other people.<\/p>\n<p>We should ask them to review with one another.<\/p>\n<p>But, except in unusual circumstances, Merlin should teach Lance &#8212; and all the other round-table knights &#8212; before asking him to explain or review.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>A final note. I think <strong>graduate students<\/strong> should be able to learn concepts independently and explain them well enough for others to understand.\u00a0<em>That&#8217;s their professional goal.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Perhaps <strong>college students<\/strong> can do so&#8230;although (remembering my own overconfident college days) I worry that this strategy might not succeed.<\/p>\n<p>In my view, <strong>K-12 students<\/strong> almost certainly can&#8217;t meet the 2-part definition of &#8220;teach&#8221; above &#8212; certainly not without LOTS of careful training and review.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>A final, final note.<\/p>\n<p>This blog post (atypically) cites no research. I&#8217;ll start looking at research on the topic of &#8220;students teaching students&#8221; and report back.<\/p>\n<p>If you have suggestions of studies you like, please let me know!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You will often hear\u00a0about an exciting strategy to help students learn: they should\u00a0teach one another. 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