{"id":6437,"date":"2022-01-23T10:20:34","date_gmt":"2022-01-23T15:20:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/blog\/?p=6437"},"modified":"2022-01-23T10:11:58","modified_gmt":"2022-01-23T15:11:58","slug":"a-noisy-problem-what-if-research-contradicts-students-beliefs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/a-noisy-problem-what-if-research-contradicts-students-beliefs\/","title":{"rendered":"A &#8220;Noisy&#8221; Problem: What If Research Contradicts Students&#8217; Beliefs?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>The invaluable Peps Mccrea <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/PepsMccrea\/status\/1480253061260058631?s=20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">recently wrote<\/a> about a vexing problem in education: the &#8220;noisy relationship between teaching and learning.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>In other words: I can&#8217;t really discern EXACTLY what parts of my teaching helped my students learn.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Was it my content knowledge?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">The quality of my rapport with them?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">The retrieval practice I require?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">The fact that they slept and ate well in the days before class?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Some combination of all these variables?<\/p>\n<p>Because I don&#8217;t know EXACTLY which teaching variable helped (or hurt) learning, I struggle to focus on the good stuff and eliminate the bad stuff.<\/p>\n<p>I thought about Mccrea&#8217;s wisdom when I read a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41539-021-00110-x.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">recent study about interleaving<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the story&#8230;<\/p>\n<h2>Interleaving 101<\/h2>\n<p>Frequent blog readers know all about <em>interleaving<\/em>, a way of organizing students&#8217; practice.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Blog-Braid.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-6440\" src=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Blog-Braid-300x169.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"169\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Blog-Braid-300x169.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Blog-Braid-768x432.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Blog-Braid-1024x576.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/01\/Blog-Braid.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s say I teach my students about parts of speech.<\/p>\n<p>Once they have a basic understanding of each one, I could have them practice <em>each part of speech on its own<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>That is: they identify nouns on Monday, adverbs on Tuesday, prepositions on Wednesday, and so forth.<\/p>\n<p>Researchers call that structure &#8220;<strong>blocking<\/strong>&#8221; &#8212; as in &#8220;blocks of homework focusing on individual topics.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Or, I could have my students <em>jumble several topics together every night<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>That is: Monday night they practice nouns, adverbs, and prepositions. Tuesday they practice verbs, prepositions, and conjunctions. Wednesday: nouns, verbs, and adjectives.<\/p>\n<p>The total number of practice problems would remain the same, but they&#8217;d practice several parts of speech all together.<\/p>\n<p>Researchers call this system &#8220;<strong>interleaving<\/strong>&#8221; &#8212; as in &#8220;weaving together several different topics.&#8221;<\/p>\n<h2>Measuring Success<\/h2>\n<p>Of course, teachers want to know:\u00a0<em>does interleaving work?\u00a0<\/em>Do students who interleave their practice learn more than students who block?<\/p>\n<p>Let&#8217;s imagine two ways of answering that question<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>Strategy #1<\/strong>: <em>ask the students<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Obviously.<\/p>\n<p>Who knows more about the students&#8217; learning than the students themselves?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>Strategy #2<\/strong>:\u00a0<em>measure their learning<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Obviously.<\/p>\n<p>If students who block consistently remember more than students who interleave (or vice versa), then we have a winner.<\/p>\n<p>So, what&#8217;s the answer?<\/p>\n<h2>Answers, and Vexing Questions<\/h2>\n<p>According to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41539-021-00110-x.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Samini and Pan&#8217;s 2021 study<\/a>, <strong>strategy #1<\/strong> yields a clear answer: students say that\u00a0<em>interleaving is harder<\/em> and\u00a0<em>results in LESS learning.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Of course, that means they think that\u00a0<em>blocking is easier<\/em> and\u00a0<em>results in MORE\u00a0learning<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Alas, <strong>strategy #2<\/strong> arrives at a <em>contradictory<\/em> result.<\/p>\n<p>When we <em>measure students&#8217; actual learning<\/em>, they remember more after interleaving than blocking.<\/p>\n<p>Samini and Pan&#8217;s study gets this result. And, LOTS AND LOTS of research gets to the same result. (See Agarwal and Bain&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/the-best-teaching-book-to-read-this-summer-powerful-teaching\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">book<\/a> for a great review of the research.)<\/p>\n<p>In other words, this study points to an especially &#8220;noisy&#8221; part of the relationship between teaching and learning.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Students genuinely <em>think and believe that interleaving interferes with learning<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">However, <em>interleaving in fact promotes learning<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>How do we handle this quandary?<\/p>\n<h2>Tentative Solutions<\/h2>\n<p>In my high-school classroom, we do A LOT of <em>retrieval practice<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>Almost every day, I fire off questions and ask students to attempt an answer.<\/p>\n<p>Sometimes I call on raised hands; or cold call; or have students write answers in their notebooks (I circle the room to check their responses). They might write on the board; they might consult in pairs.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m entirely comfortable using retrieval practice &#8212; and so are my students &#8212; because\u00a0<em>on the second day of class<\/em> I showed them research about retrieval practice.<\/p>\n<p>I told them:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>This might feel hard at first.<\/p>\n<p>But, trust me. It feels hard because your brain is working harder. And that means you&#8217;re learning more.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s like going to the gym. You don&#8217;t gain muscle by picking up paper clips. You gain muscle by picking up heavy things. Hard work leads to better fitness.<\/p>\n<p>The same rule applies here. Retrieval practice is harder, so you&#8217;ll learn more.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Since that day, I stop every now and then at the end of an RP session and say: &#8221; do you feel how much you&#8217;ve learned? Do you see how much retrieval practice is helping?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>In fact (I swear I am not making this up), one of my Sophomores once said: &#8220;Thank you Mr. Watson for making us do retrieval practice every day.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I tell this story because it <em>applies to interleaving as well<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve been interleaving all year, but I haven&#8217;t (yet) explained it to my students. I plan to do so this upcoming week (or next).<\/p>\n<p>My hope is: they&#8217;ll see why we&#8217;ve been bouncing back and forth from topic to topic in ways that might seem random or disorganized.<\/p>\n<p>We&#8217;ve been interleaving all along.<\/p>\n<p>I offer this solution as &#8220;tentative&#8221; because\u00a0<em>my context might not match yours<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">For instance, if you teach younger or older students, they might not respond as mine do.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">If you teach students with diagnosed learning differences, interleaving might not benefit them as much.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">And so forth.<\/p>\n<p>As always: consider the research findings, consider my experience, and <em>then use your own best judgment to fit them into your classroom practice<\/em>.<\/p>\n<h2>TL;DR<\/h2>\n<p>If students&#8217; beliefs contradict research, I myself\u00a0<em>tell them about the research &#8212; graphs and all.<\/em>\u00a0And then I ask them to trust me.<\/p>\n<p>Retrieval practice and interleaving really do work. My students know about this research pool. So far, they&#8217;re on board.<\/p>\n<p>If you try this strategy, or another one, I hope you&#8217;ll let me know about your own experience.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Samani, J., &amp; Pan, S. C. (2021). Interleaved practice enhances memory and problem-solving ability in undergraduate physics.\u00a0<i>NPJ science of learning<\/i>,\u00a0<i>6<\/i>(1), 1-11.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The invaluable Peps Mccrea recently wrote about a vexing problem in education: the &#8220;noisy relationship between teaching and learning.&#8221; In other words: I can&#8217;t really discern EXACTLY what parts of my teaching helped my students learn. Was it my content knowledge? The quality of my rapport with them? The retrieval practice I require? 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