{"id":5777,"date":"2020-08-11T08:00:52","date_gmt":"2020-08-11T13:00:52","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/blog\/?p=5777"},"modified":"2020-07-29T18:45:30","modified_gmt":"2020-07-29T23:45:30","slug":"growing-mindsets-in-argentina-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/growing-mindsets-in-argentina-2\/","title":{"rendered":"Growing Mindsets in Argentina? [Repost]"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Since I first published this post a year ago, there&#8217;s been an important change to its argument: the study I&#8217;m writing about now HAS been <a href=\"https:\/\/journals.sagepub.com\/doi\/abs\/10.3102\/0162373720938041?journalCode=epaa\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">published<\/a> in a peer-reviewed journal.<\/p>\n<p>As the Mindset skepticism movement gains further steam, I was struck by a comment on this study from the invaluable Dan Willingham. If I remember this correctly, he tweeted (roughly): &#8220;The mystery is that we haven&#8217;t been able to make this theory work in the classroom.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Note the elegant middle ground this comment finds. Willingham acknowledges both the decades of scrupulous work that Dweck and her colleagues undertook, and that classroom interventions haven&#8217;t had the effect we&#8217;d like (for most students).<\/p>\n<p>He doesn&#8217;t say (as others mean-spiritedly imply) that Dweck is a fraud. He doesn&#8217;t say (as others blithely imply) that we don&#8217;t need to worry about the rising number of classroom non-replications.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, he says: &#8220;this intervention works under some circumstances, but not under others. We don&#8217;t yet know why. If we did, that would be SUPER helpful.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I myself &#8212; as I argue below &#8212; think that we went too far thinking that upbeat posters on the wall would radically change students&#8217; motivation, and now we&#8217;re going too far in arguing the whole Mindset thing is bunk.<\/p>\n<p>OF COURSE one-time interventions don&#8217;t work. Are we truly surprised by this? PERHAPS creating a different school climate will work. Is that so preposterous an argument?<\/p>\n<p>In any case: here&#8217;s what I wrote in July of 2019&#8230;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>Mindset theory has faced increasing skepticism in recent years.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/AdobeStock_75977513_Credit.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-4795\" src=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/AdobeStock_75977513_Credit-300x195.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"195\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/AdobeStock_75977513_Credit-300x195.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/AdobeStock_75977513_Credit-768x498.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/07\/AdobeStock_75977513_Credit-1024x664.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>For four decades &#8212; literally!&#8211;Carol Dweck and other researchers ran thoughtful studies with thousands of students. Over and over, they found that students who <em>think about about their work in particular ways<\/em> (shorthand, &#8220;growth mindset&#8221;) do better than those who don&#8217;t (&#8220;fixed mindset&#8221;).<\/p>\n<p>Like other areas of psychology (think &#8220;power poses&#8221;), Mindset Theory has been caught up in the &#8220;replication crisis.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>In brief: if Mindset theory is true, then a mindset intervention should help no matter who does the intervening. It should work when Dweck&#8217;s team does it with her students, <em>and when I do so with mine<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>If it works only for Dweck, well, that doesn&#8217;t really help the rest of us.<\/p>\n<p>And, several researchers have found that various strategies didn&#8217;t replicate.<\/p>\n<p>A <a href=\"https:\/\/journals.sagepub.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1177\/0956797617739704\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">much publicized meta-analysis<\/a>, published last summer, suggests that Mindset interventions had very small effects. (I myself think this meta-analysis has been over-interpreted; you can see my analysis <a href=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/is-it-time-to-re-re-think-mindset-research\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">here<\/a>.)<\/p>\n<h2>Today&#8217;s News<\/h2>\n<p>Researcher and NYU professor Alejandro <a href=\"https:\/\/www.alejandroganimian.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ganimian<\/a> has published research about a <a href=\"https:\/\/static1.squarespace.com\/static\/5990cfd52994ca797742fae9\/t\/5d001c3f08c52d0001413341\/1560288319372\/ganimian2019.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">large-scale mindset intervention<\/a> in Argentina.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Ganimian had 12th graders at 100 (!) schools read a passage arguing that &#8220;persisting\u00a0through difficult challenges can develop the brain.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">The 12th graders then wrote\u00a0&#8220;a letter to a classmate of their choice on the three main lessons from the reading and how they might help him\/her.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">To keep the growth mindset message fresh, those letters were posted in the classroom.<\/p>\n<p>He compared these students to 12th graders at 102 other schools that had not used this intervention.<\/p>\n<p>The results?\u00a0<strong>Nada. Nothin&#8217;. Bupkis.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Specifically:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">This intervention had &#8220;no effect on students\u2019\u00a0propensity to find challenging tasks less intimidating.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">It didn&#8217;t increase the likelihood that they would pay attention in class.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">By some rough\/indirect measures, it didn&#8217;t have an effect on the participants&#8217; academic success.<\/p>\n<p>As Ganimian sums up his results:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>In nearly all outcomes, I can rule out even small effects. &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>This study suggests that the benefits of growth mindset interventions\u00a0may be more challenging to replicate and scale in developing countries than anticipated.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h2>What Should Teachers Do?<\/h2>\n<p><strong>First<\/strong>: two clarifying points. a) Ganimian&#8217;s research hasn&#8217;t been peer reviewed and published in a journal. It is currently a working paper, hosted on his website. [Ed. 8\/2020: Ganimian&#8217;s research now has been published: see link at the top of this post.]\n<p>And b) I myself am not a neutral source in this debate. I&#8217;ve written a book about mindset research, and so I read Ganimian&#8217;s work through that lens.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Second<\/strong>: I think mindset strategies are likeliest to have an effect when used <em>all together as a consistent, unified approach<\/em> to student motivation.<\/p>\n<p>That is: I&#8217;m not at all surprised that a &#8220;one-shot&#8221; intervention doesn&#8217;t have big results. (Some <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tandfonline.com\/doi\/abs\/10.1080\/01443410.2018.1426833\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">research<\/a> has found success with &#8220;one-shot&#8221; interventions; I&#8217;ve always been skeptical.)<\/p>\n<p>So, if you want to use mindset research in your classrooms, <strong>don&#8217;t do just one thing, once<\/strong>. A motivational poster really won&#8217;t accomplish much of anything.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, understand the interconnecting strategies that promote a growth-mindset <em>climate<\/em>, and use them consistently and subtly. Heck, I can even recommend a <a href=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/learning-grows-the-science-of-motivation-for-the-classroom-teacher\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">book<\/a> that will show you the way.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Third:\u00a0<\/strong>Here&#8217;s what I wrote last October:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">We should not, of course, ask mindset to solve all our problems. Nor should we ask retrieval practice to solve all problems. Or short bursts of in-class exercise.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">No one change fixes everything.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Instead, we should see Mindset Theory as one useful tool that can help many of our students.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A study with 12th graders in Argentina highlights an important message about Growth Mindset: doing one thing once is unlikely to have much of an effect.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":18,"featured_media":4795,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[20],"class_list":["post-5777","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-lb-blog","tag-mindset"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5777","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/18"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=5777"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5777\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5779,"href":"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/5777\/revisions\/5779"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/4795"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=5777"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=5777"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=5777"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}