{"id":4284,"date":"2019-02-23T08:00:13","date_gmt":"2019-02-23T13:00:13","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/blog\/?p=4284"},"modified":"2025-02-26T06:55:05","modified_gmt":"2025-02-26T11:55:05","slug":"mindset-bull-gimmicks-and-other-unhelpful-critiques","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/mindset-bull-gimmicks-and-other-unhelpful-critiques\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Mindset Bull****,&#8221; &#8220;Gimmicks,&#8221; and Other Unhelpful Critiques"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>My friend Cindy Nebel has a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.learningscientists.org\/blog\/2019\/2\/7-1\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">thoughtful post<\/a> about a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tes.com\/news\/exclusive-growth-mindset-bullshit-says-leading-geneticist\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">recent article at TES<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/AdobeStock_113597885_Credit.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-4290\" src=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/AdobeStock_113597885_Credit-300x200.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"200\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/AdobeStock_113597885_Credit-300x200.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/AdobeStock_113597885_Credit-768x512.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.braindevs.net\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/AdobeStock_113597885_Credit-1024x683.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the backstory: a world-famous geneticist has dismissed research into Mindset as &#8220;bullshit&#8221; and &#8220;gimmicks.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Now, reasonable people have their doubts about Mindset Theory. We&#8217;ve <a href=\"https:\/\/braindevs.net\/blog\/\/mindset-controversy\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">written about such doubts<\/a> before.<\/p>\n<p>But, as Nebel emphasizes in her post, wholesale rejection of the theory simply doesn&#8217;t make sense. For instance:<\/p>\n<h2>Disciplines Matter&#8230;<\/h2>\n<p>Geneticists know a lot about genetics. And, genes matter for teaching and learning.<\/p>\n<p>(How much do they matter? <a href=\"https:\/\/scottbarrykaufman.com\/there-is-no-nature-nurture-war\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">A BIG controversy<\/a>&#8230;)<\/p>\n<p>But: most geneticists remember that psychology research is complicated. Knowledge and skill in one field don&#8217;t automatically translate to knowledge and skill in another.<\/p>\n<p>In other words: psychologists will &#8212; most likely &#8212; have better insights into the strengths and weaknesses of psychology debates than will rocket scientists, or nuclear submariners, or even geneticists.<\/p>\n<p>This point, of course, extends to other kinds of cross-disciplinary critiques. Here&#8217;s Nebel on the intersection of neuroscience and education:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A common misconception that we hear is that education and neuroscience are related disciplines and that those who study the brain must know how we learn.<\/p>\n<p>While one can inform the other, I promise that training in neuroscience does NOT include an understanding of how those brain processes translate into classroom practices.<\/p>\n<p>We often talk about a very necessary dialogue between educators and researchers, because <em>very<\/em> few individuals have extensive experience in both domains.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>For all these reasons, neuroscientists (and psychologists) can provide teachers with useful perspectives. But, only teachers can decide what makes the most sense in the classroom.<\/p>\n<h2>&#8230;but Cost Doesn&#8217;t Matter<\/h2>\n<p>One of the stranger parts of the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.tes.com\/news\/exclusive-growth-mindset-bullshit-says-leading-geneticist\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">TES interview<\/a>: Plomin&#8217;s insistence that only <em>expensive<\/em> changes benefit education.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cTo think there is some simple cheap little thing that is going to make everybody fine, it is crazy,\u201d he said in exclusive remarks published today.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cGood interventions are the most expensive and intensive.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Pish posh.<\/p>\n<p>If you&#8217;ve spent any time at a Learning and the Brain conference, you know that teachers can make all sorts of highly effective changes to their teaching at no cost whatsoever.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Using <strong>retrieval practice<\/strong> instead of simple review: no cost.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Managing students&#8217; <strong>working memory load<\/strong> by&#8230;say&#8230;spreading instructions out over time: no cost.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Moderating students&#8217; <strong>alertness levels<\/strong> by having them move: no cost.<\/p>\n<p>Anyone who says we can&#8217;t improve teaching and learning without spending lots of money simply doesn&#8217;t understand teaching, learning, or the promise of educational psychology.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>My friend Cindy Nebel has a thoughtful post about a recent article at TES. 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